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Искам да попитам колегите,знае ли някой някакъв софтуер за създаване на стилове за автоакомпанимент който да се инсталира на компютър и от там да се правят стилове и същевременно да се управляват от миди клавиатура?И дали съществува подобен софтуер който се инсталира в кюбейс примерно,защото доста търсих и все не намирам.

Предварително благодаря!

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Надявам се, че си добре с английския. Това е моделът за създаване на стилове за Ямаха, става и за Роланд, само си виж маркерите за него, че ме мързи сега да ги потърся. Отделно Роланд си имат и фрий софтуеър за стилове на сайта. Подобен е. Ако имаш други въпроси питай, ще се опитам да ти помогна. Успех!

 

Please notice

This description does not contain any information about programming styles using the Virtual Arranger feature. Neither does is contain information about XG. Styles using these features tends to sound very bad on the "older" models.

What you need

1. A computer.

2. A Yamaha keyboard.

3. A MIDI interface and cable between computer and keyboard.

4. A sequencer program, that are able to work with markers (Cakewalk, Master Tracks etc).

5. Most important, some basic musical ability.

First steps

Format a floppy disk in your Yamaha (important! your Yamaha may refuse to read a disk formatted using the computer). Connect your keyboard to the computer using a MIDI-cable. Start your sequencer program. Your now ready to do some serious style-making.

Channel assignment in a style

You can use virtually any MIDI-channel for the individual tracks for your style, but limit yourself to use these channels:

 

Channel 10 - Drums

Channel 11 - Bass

Channel 12 - Chord 1

Channel 13 - Chord 2

Channel 14 - Pad sound (like strings)

Channel 15 - Phrase 1

Channel 16 - Phrase 2

 

Remember, that the style will be using the GM voice list, and not the panel voice list.

Recording the parts

There are several ways to get some music on the individual tracks. You can:

 

Record it using your keyboard.

Pick the parts you need from an existing style

Pick the parts from a SMF-file (be aware of copyrights - you don't want to be software pirate, right?)

Program it using the mouse (have fun, this takes A LOT of time)

 

Every measure can be from 1 to 128 measures in length, it really doesn't matter that much. However, try to keep the parts relatively short - your Yamaha has a limited amount of memory.

 

I'm trying to keep these limits:

 

Main A and B - 4 to 8 measures

Intro A and B - 1 to 8 measures

Ending A and B - 1 to 8 measures

Fill Ins - 1 to 2 measures

 

A very, very, very important thing to remember is, that every part should be recorded in C-major (you are, of course, able to change chords within the individual parts, but the overall performance has to be in C-major). This makes your styles able to respond to the basic chord types.

 

IMPORTANT HINT! If you want more flexibility in your style file - do your recording in CMaj7. This makes your styles able to respond to more chord types, but makes the recording a bit harder to make (Another hint - the C-major chord consists of the tones C, E, and G. Add a B to make it a C-Maj7 chord).

 

ANOTHER IMPORTANT HINT! If you don't want more than 1 type of intro and ending - please see special instructions below.

 

ANOTHER IMPORTANT HINT! On some models, the order of the parts matters. The 630, 730 and some versions of the 7000, you have to keep parts in a specific order for the style to work. Keep this order: Main A - Fill In AA - Fill In AB - Intro A - Ending A - Main B - Fill In BA - Fill In BB - Intro B - Ending B. If the style does not work (either a homemade one, or one from another Style Programmer) then edit it to this order!

 

Editing the style

Okay, you have recorded the style - now it's time to edit the recording (or "recording"). This job is made using your sequencer program.

 

Every style file consists of different parts: main A, main B, Intro A, Ending B etc (actually, only Main A is a must, but your keyboard will be silent (sometimes even this can be a pleasure) when you press (as an example) Main B. Your poor Yamaha should have a chance to find these different parts. This is done by marking the individual parts using markers. Set a marker at the beginning of the parts.

 

Be aware of the spelling. Your keyboard understands Main A, but not main A. You're playing on an intelligent instrument, and it certainly has the ability of reading. If you have misspelled a marker, missed the capitalization, or don't have it, the result is a "silent" keyboard.

 

The first measure should be left blank (without notes), but this is the measure to set program change, volume, pan, reverb and chorus values using control change messages. This first measure MUST contain 2 markers: SFF1 and SInt, set at measure 1.0.0. This means, that your music starts at measure 2.0.0. If this is the main A part, set a marker called Main A at measure 2.0.0.

 

The only empty measure is 1.0.0. Empty measures within the individual parts tends to confuse the keyboard.

 

Your faithfull Yamaha understands these markers:

 

SFF1

SInt

Intro A

Intro B

Main A

Main B

Ending A

Ending B

Fill In AA

Fill In AB

Fill In BB

Fill In BA

Break AA (only some of the large models)

Break BB (only some of the large models)

 

NOTE - If you have decided only to have one type of intro or ending (or intro and ending) be sure to mark the intro or ending as Intro B or Ending B. Your Yamaha is smart enough to substitute Intro A with Intro B, and Ending A with Ending B. In rare cases this also applies to fill-in's, where it is possible to play with Fill In AA and BB only. The special problem is, that your keyboard has to learn what to substitute. As an example - your keyboard is silent going from Main B to Main A (Fill In BA), unless you have used Fill In BB when playing (pressing the button Main B while playing the Main B part). After doing this little trick, your Yamaha has learned to use Fill In BB when switching away from Main B. The point is, using only 1 intro and 1 ending is perfectly allright. Using only 2 Fill Ins (AA and BB) is NOT.

Save your style

After editing, it's time to save your work. A style must be saved as a SMF format 0 file. The last thing to do, is to rename your style to have the extension .STY instead of .MID. Copy the style to the floppy disk and test it (if it sounds great - mail it to me).

CASM

You have probably noticed, that many styles has more information than just the MIDI information. In particular, this is the case for professional styles. The MIDI standard is a bit limited for such information as channel remapping, octave shifting etc. Yamaha has invented a method of adding this information to styles, by appending special information blocks at the end of the MIDI part. You can download a piece of software called "CASM Writer" from the author, Julijan Zavernik, and use this to insert CASM statements. If you have questions regarding this software, then mail them directly to Julijan (not to me).

Troubleshooting

This section should answer most of the common questions, if things go wrong:

 

If the style doesn't work at all, doublecheck the markers and check whether the style is saved as a format 0 file.

"Hanging" notes means, that these notes are too long (as en example, at note with a length og 2.0.0 in the last measure witin a part.

If the chords sounds bad, check your recorded material (have you been playing in C-major or CMaj7 ??)

Missing parts usually means misspelled markers.

If the keyboards suddenly stops playing, check if you should have empty measures within a part.

A "silent" keyboard usually means, that you have forgot to make something. It could also be a question of order (see above).

The (otherwise brilliant) sequencer program Cakewalk seems to have a problem regarding style-making. Cakewalk packs the resulting MIDI in some way. This packing seems to confuse the Yamaha. You can use Cakewalk for all your work (like I'm doing), but use another sequencer for the final saving of your work.

 

Disclaimer

I don't take any responsibilities at all regarding this description. I can't guarantee accuracy of usablility of this description, or any kind of damage occurring using this description (don't worry, it won't harm your instrument).

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